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reform to that end. now, john mccain thankfully has been one representing reform. two years ago, remember, it was john mccain who pushed so hard with the fannie mae and freddie mac reform measures. he sounded that warning bell. people in the senate with him, his colleagues, didn't want to listen to him and wouldn't go towards that reform that was needed then. i think that the alarm has been heard, though, and there will be that greater oversight, again thanks to john mccain's bipartisan efforts that he was so instrumental in bringing folks together over this past week, even suspending his own campaign to make sure he was putting excessive politics aside and putting the country first. >> you both would like to be vice president. senator biden, how, as vice president, would you work to shrink this gap of polarization which has sprung up in washington, which you both have spoken about here tonight? >> well, that's what i've done my whole career, gwen, on very, very controversial issues, from dealing with violence against women, to putting 100,000 police officers on the street, to trying to g
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on one in the 2008 democratic primary, then three debates against john mccain. it's a different dynamic than to be the frontrunner where four or five people are aiming at you throughout a debate. >> here we are on the eve practically of the first debate and it's supposed to be an economic, domestic policy. >> right. >> and now foreign policy has reared its head. we have first of all mitt romney and "the wall street journal" an op-ed, saying that these developments are not as president obama says, mere bumps in the road. they are major issues that put our security at risk, yet amid this upheaval our country seems to be at the mercy of events rather than shaping them, not moving them in a direction that protects our people or allies. and paul ryan just now on the laura engram radio show, saying this about afghanistan. >> that echos also what john mccain said on "morning joe" today. are they trying to change the skubts to get off -- subject to get off 47% and other missteps and perceived problems in their camp or see a real vulnerability here after benghazi in the way that the white house
he's not such a great debater, he hasn't done this in four years since debating john mccain where as mitt romney had all this practice. even last night the president was trying to downplay his expectations. >> who is going to put the most points on the board? [you are ] >> no, no, governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. but what i'm most concerned about is having a serious discussion about what we need to do to keep the country growing and restore security for hard-working americans. >> i'm just okay the president says in terms of debating, although i remember back in tpwaeut 2008 he did a pretty good job against hillary clinton. a pretty good job with john mccain. by the way, no sign of lindsay lohan here yet. jenna: where are the celebrities going to come in next. ed you're better than okay. back toed as news warrants in las vegas. i gregg: if she was there you would know it. jenna:ed would be all over that. gregg: the man who wants president obama's job also getting ready for the first debate. governor mitt romney will be heading to denver a bit later today ahead o
. it lacks or lack when he ran against john mccain. foreign policy experience. did not know anybody. never ran a company. i think this will happen across the country and most polls. people will vote their conscience right before they took off. they will come in with preconceived notions. i was going to vote with john mccain. long experience. knows how washington works. a war hero. understand the economy. john mccain hands down. when i went into the voting booth, for some reason, and i cannot explain it, i voted for president barack obama. i can tell you, i am not happy, but i believe, most people, my estimation, most people in my estimation who voted for our president are unhappy. though polls tell you one thing and on the day when people will vote their conscience, something will happen. when people watch the presidential debates tonight, they will be listening with their eyes. they will not understand a lot of the words going by because they are not qualified to understand it. they will just say, i like what that person said. i like how they said it. stuart: i believe that you have been
. in a those arenas, john mccain has taught me -- tapped me and cannot wait to work with me. >> i do not know any early education program he is supporting. we did not funded, but we can get back to that. with regards to the role of a vice president, i am sure the governor, with her principlend in my case with barack, barack -- i have a history of getting things done in the senate. john mccain with a knowledge that. i would be the point person with a legislative initiative in the united states congress. when asked if i wanted a portfolio, my response was no, but barack indicated that he wanted me to help him govern. give him my best advice -- he is president, not me. one of the things he said early on was he would pick somebody with a independent judgment and that would not be afraid to disagree with him. i look forward to working with barack and playing a constructive role in this presidency, bringing about the change it needs. >> we will have more from this date -- debate tonight. tonight, out watch the debate between cheney and edwards. the also have the debate between joe biden and pailin
for john mccain? >> yes. i vote for the man and not for the party. >> our hash tag is c-span #2012. speaking of the president, if you and the iraq war act of years ago, why did not bring the troops from four years ago? back to the phone calls. we will take a caller from florida. independent line. caller: hello. i have followed this all the time on my tv. i have seen presidents come and go. i was a republican many years ago. i realize that every time we had a republican president, money does not go around. the more affluent people keep it. our economy goes down. i think during the last -- when clinton was in, he balanced the budget. when bush and got it, they spent money like it was going out of style. >> is your vote going to barack obama this time? >> yes. i feel that he is qualified in every phase of the government. i do not think romney knows enough about foreign policy. i think he will get us into a war if he keeps saying what he is saying. >> we will hear about for a policy more in the debate in florida. -- foreign policy it in the debate in florida. >> last night was an impor
the country growing and restore security for hard working americans. john mccain has debated for mitt romney and he is not expecting any major break throughs this moment. >> i can't remember whether it was the last time it was one of these comments that grabbed everybody's attention. he turned the race upside down and the debate will be campaigning in colorado today. >> well one week from today, he returns to raise some campaign cash. he will be hosting a dinner in san francisco and that dinner will be followed by a concert. they go up to $7,500 for premium seats and a chance to take a picture with the president. musical guests have not been announced. >>> there are several new laws here and coming up, the bills the governor approved on the last day to act. >>> today is the third straight spare the air day, they are avoiding gas barbecues and they are encouraged to take transportation and marks the 10th spare the air day of the season. >> how is the commute doing so far? >> right now traffic is doing well around the bay area, as a matter of fact if you are driving any time soon, you should d
that will focus on domestic policy. >> we will say where we are as a country and where we need to go. >> john mccain cautioned don't expect any major breakthroughs. >> the candidates are well scripted. >> who is the alpha dog? that is what we want to see. >> mitt romney is holding a rally in denver tonight. president obama is practicing in nevada today and tomorrow and flying to colorado on wednesday. >> who do americans think will win the debate/ ? >> most americans think president obama will beat mitt romney. we'll find out in just a couple of days. >> hallie jackson, thank you. >> 5:07. 50 degrees at the airport. five people dead in minnesota. >> an amber alert issued for two children in tennessee. children in tennessee. volume is light this >> welcome back. in the 40's in the suburbs. i think it will be a dry day today. it is dry this boeing. there is some fog. 48 in rows down. 53 in parkville -- 48 in randallstown. it will become mostly cloudy but dry. high temperature of 72. rain is in the picture for tonight. >> an update to the deadly off the shooting in minnesota last week. funeral s
was winning among independent voters by 13 points. in 2008, he defeated john mccain by 8% of independents. let's see where polls settle. i will be looking at the independent numbers. the other thing about barack obama's election, he won 43% of the white vote. in most of the national polls, that is where he is. look, the country is changing. in 2008, three-quarters of the electorate was white, down from the mid to high-80's. that number is going to change. in a close election -- i do not think anybody thought it would be a seven-point race. the metrics are there for him to win. >> to me, the most stunning numbers from 2008 -- if you take out 18-29-year-old and look just at 30 plus, mccain and obama tied. that shows you how important the youth vote is to the president. that is why you see air force one showing up near -- at airports near major universities. they recognize that fact. john mccain beat barack obama 55-43 among white voters. george w. bush, in 2000, beat al gore among white voters 55- 43. the margin was the same. how did gore and bush is essentially tied? you might not know this, bu
of the candidates have experienced. president obama's last debate was against senator john mccain in the fall of 2008. while governor romney has had nearly two dozen debates during that gop primary. the obama campaign says the president's strategy is focused on shorter, crisper answers. the romney strategy, as reported in "the new york times" has the governor memorizing a series of zingers to try to hit the president with. let's bring in our "news nation" political panel for this monday. democratic strategist chris, national radio host michael, and also an msnbc contributor, and villa skype as you can tell from our shot there, steve, conservative radio show host. you have the visual disadvantage because you're skype. i'll let you start off first here. let me play what paul ryan, completely opposite of what chris christie said this sunday. his assessment of the debates. let's play ryan, please. >> i don't think one event is going to make or break this campaign. look, president obama's a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> it's no secret, st
? >>guest: with all respect to john mccain, that is crazy. if we have learned anything in 11 years since 9/11 we have had one case after another of trying to prop up governments that are islamist states that do not have our interests in common. they are not interested in pursuing the sail path as we are. to try to prop them up, we are thought going to bring these guys an empty we will not gem -- get them to abandon radical views and john mccain could look back at the past nine, ten, 11 years and all of the mistakes we have made. >>neil: always good to see you, sir, from washington, dc. the mug shot that congressman west hopes gives him a better shot. will it? that is ahead. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about that 401(k) you picked up back in the '80s. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like a lot of things, the market has changed, tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and your plans probably have too. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at charles schwab, we'll give you personalized recommendations tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 on how to reinvest that old 401(k). tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 so talk to chuck tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 and bring your old
night. >> let's use our last 12 minutes tonight. we agree air the debates across the country, john mccain has pleaded -- has tweeted. let's hear from matt from houston. >> imf republican, but i find myself for the middle of the road. -- i am a republican, but i am free middle of the road. we will have distinct differences on what we think about certain things. but one thing that i pulled away in favor of mitt romney was that he has a clear record of being able to work well and get things done in a very partisan environment in the state of massachusetts. if you look at president obama's record, he has a record of not being able to work well in a partisan environment. we will have to work together to get things done and my vote will go to mitt romney because he has a record of being able to do something just like that. >> thank you so much. in addition to posting your comments and we already have a lot of them on the debate, more than 1200 comments have come in on tonight's first debate, we also now have it all up there, which is a simple "who won?" let's take a look at how things st
president understands what our strengths are. john mccain and i have had good conversations about where i would lead with his agenda. that is energy independence in america and reform of government over all and working with families of children with special needs. that is near and dear to my heart. in those arenas, john mccain has tapped me and said that is where i want you to lead that i said i cannot wait to get there. >> i hope we will get back to education because i don't know any government program that john is supporting. no child left behind, the problem was the money was left behind but we can get back to that. with regard to the role of vice president, i'm sure the governor considered this an barack obama asked me to use my history of getting things done in the u.s. senate. john mccain would back that up and i have a history of that. i would be in charge of the legislative initiatives in the administration. when i was said there would be a portfolio, a n vice saido, but barack obama said he wants me to help him with his decisions. i will be in the room when he gives his decisions
much with john mccain on three bush restored. some enduring something in his car. we were in germany with this big crowd. she goes you know, his first day on that trip he sees a three-point shot in turn of the troops with george h.w. bush at a country club on a golf these kinds of pictures coming in now, i think started from these two people who really understood language in the narrative. you could see this happening on the center of the campaign and to help swarms picture for people in their mind. >> being a lover of campaign, how would you differentiate campaign trails, from doing what you have to get the guy. >> the campaign trails from -- >> from a propaganda machine, just a what you have to get the candidate on the campaign trial. >> well, you now, i just don't think voters go through propaganda machines. maybe they did at one time. you see this all the time. people want an authentic candidate. i think today's candidate, and this is i guess that is frustrated about what are starting band practice. i thought people were running tactics and not even a propaganda machine, but just
of the president's policies and making sure our president understands what our strengths are. john mccain and i have had good conversations about where i would lead with his agenda. that is energy independence in america and reform of government over all. and then working with families of children with special needs which is near and dear to my heart for it in those agreements, john mccain has tapped me and said that is where he wants me to lead. i cannot wait to get there. >> i hope we will get back to education because i don't know any government program that john supported in education. the reason that no child was left behind is that the money was left behind. with regard to the role of the vice-president, i had a long talk, as i'm sure the governor did with her principle and in my case it is barack obama and he asked me -- i have a history of getting things done the senate and john mccain will back that up. i would be the point person for the legislative initiatives in the united states congress for our administration. when asked if i wanted a portfolio, my response was no, barack obama sa
at each other. there was press attention in the mccain campaign and-john mccain was being. we did a survey and 60% or less of the more negative. we said the obama people were more negative than mccain. he had so much money he to run negative ads as well as the positive ads. the candidates worried that they will be seen as too negative. they have a reputational risk at stake and there as. the super pak ads do not have the same risk. they and 99.9%-. negative. after the election, that is something i think we need to think about as an effect of this new kind -- campaign finance world is that the message the american people are getting -- >> another interest against anonymity -- it seems relatively small in comparison with the other issues. if you'll let one person to anonymously sully the debate in a significant way, there is a cost. >> if there is a widespread perception mitt romney does not have influence over what the super back contained, he will be expected to stand up and defend it. >> mitt romney said he did not see those ads. goshm, gewe - there are clear cases where candidates have c
of media speak strategies and former senior advisor spokesperson to john mccain. thank you for joug us. nancy i want to begin with you. for six months they said this campaign is a referendum on president obama's record. now you heard paul ryan saying in his interview with chris that it's about choice. do you see this as a shift in strategy for the romney campaign and if so, is that why? >> i think it's right and proper for both candidates to offer americans a clear vision of their path for the country. i think it's a natural evidence luilgs. any time an incumbent president running against a challenger there is component of that that is referendum, but now is the time where we've got a matter of weeks when people have to cast their votes. now is the time for each candidate to be crystal clear about the direction they would take our country. >> heather: alex us what do you think? >> i think they were energized by the romney-ryan team gets this. when you look at the choice that americans have, it's like mitt romney came straight out of central casting. he has a guy and talking about who i
, the president was winning independent voters by 13 points. in 2008, he defeated john mccain by 8. i will be looking at the independent numbers. the other thing, too, very quickly, and in terms of minorities and youth vote, the other thing about barack obama's election in 2008 was that he wants something on the order of 43% of the -- won something on the order of 40% of the white vote. look, the country is changing. in 2008, 3/for the electorate was white, down from the mid-to- high-80s years ago. in a very close election, i don't think anyone thought it would be a seven-point race. the metrics are there for him to win. >> to me the most -- sorry to interrupt -- to me the most stunning numbers from 2008 -- one, if you take out the 18-to- 29-year-olds, mccain and obama tied. that shows you how important the youth vote is. by the way, that is why use the air force one is showing up at universities in swing states. the other factor is that john mccain beat barack obama 55-43 among white voters. george w. bush in 2000 beat al gore among white voters 55-43. the margin is the same. so how
coming from special interest money. we have to get a handle on it. and like john mccain, i have learned from experience, and it's not a new position for me. 24 years ago i supported full public financing of all federal elections. and anybody who thinks i'm just saying it, it will be the first bill i send to the congress. i want you to know i care passionately about this and i will fight until it becomes law. >> i want people to hear what he just said. he is for full public financing of congressional elections. i'm absolutely, adamently opposed to that. i don't want the government financing congressional elections. >> on that wonderful note of disagreement, we have to stop here and we want to go now to your closing statements. governor bush is first. you have two minutes. >> thank you, jim. thank the university of massachusetts and mr. vice president, thank you. it has been a good, lively exchange. there is a huge difference of opinion. mine is i want to empower people in their own lives. i also want to go to washington to get some positive things done. it is going to require a new spiri
. specifically he made the case then right or wrong that he was a better steward of the economy than john mccain in troubled times. romney's got to make that case in 2012. >> little different when you're running against an incumbent. right? there's not a direct parallel there. >> look at the transcript. he was running against president bush. that these set of economic policies are wrong and i have a compelling vision. whether he can do that is another story. >> your colleague e.j. deion wrote journalists are in search of defining moments and game changers. by this standard, romney needs to game changer. obama can live quite happily without one. so do you think that mitt romney needs to have a big moment or if he is perceived to have won will at least give republicans some momentum. is that really the most reasonable thing to hope for? >> well, certainly it will. if the race were sort of fixed in time right now, everybody assumes that obama would win. in many ways that's happening because of early voting all right. so romney needs to change the trajectory in some way. now, that washington post is
for president obama. he debated john mccain who is an american hero. and senator obama served with senator mccain. even though he didn't agree barack obama had a very high degree of respect for john mccain looking across that stage. i fear -- he lacks that looking at romney. might not only he as he underestimate governor romney but may show -- this is a huge ri risk, he may show some of that contempt gore showed for bush and that's a huge risk for the president. stick his chin up and look down his nose at you if he thinks -- you are beneath him. if you see that body language -- >> i think that's a real danger. i think that there is not a lot of love lost between these two. i don't think that obama likes romney. think that's why he has gotten so competitive in the election. if you have that disdain coming out in the debate it can hurt obama. people obama is a likable guy, nicer guy. they don't think romney is a nice guy. if romney can equalize the like built zbap i thigap it will hel >> what he did effectively with newt gingrich during the republican debates get under his skin, how -- president ha
including john mccain and roy blunt, martin omalley, and david axelrod. at 4:00, the host of the face the nation talks with crist christi, newt gingrich, and marha blackburn. they are brought to you as a public service by the network and c-span. they began at noon eastern with "meet the press," "this week, fox news sunday, state of the union, and face the nation from cbs. you can listen to them all on c- span radio here in the washington, d.c. area. nationwide on xm satellite radio. you can go online to cspanradio.org. >> every nation has -- generation has sacrificed. we were then spending their money. we are now even more -- much more spending their money. we are leaving them a mass that will be a very difficult to deal with hand. just think of who was to come here first and take us over. the last thing i want to see is our country taken over because we are so financially weak we cannot do anything. we are moving in that direction. we are on the edge of the cliff. we have to start fixing it now. otherwise we are leaving a disaster to our children and grandchildren. we could even lose
perspective on this from john mccain, he's debated both the president and mitt romney. he says we will see two very strong well-prepared debaters and he predicts few surprises. the president's behind closed doors in nevada for the next two days preparing to face mitt romney in denver wednesday. >> he's a good debater. i'm just okay. but what i'm most concerned about is having a serious discussion about what we need to do to keep the country growing. >> reporter: both sides are downplaying expectations. a senior aide to the president says romney will be prepared, disciplined and aggressive. romney's debate partner calls the president a tough debater. >> barack obama is going to be formidable, and i think it will be a good debate, but i certainly would not underestimate what barack obama brings to it. >> reporter: john kerry's playing romney with the president. in a weekend memo, republicans urged kerry to press the president on libya and syria. romney calls obama's foreign policy dangerous. romney's debate plan, clearly and concisely explain how he can fix the economy. >> i expect to be able to
. >> the number one reason why mitt romney should appear on the late show,down, john mccain once blew us off. how did that turn out? >> eliot: i love david letterman. they're back and they opened shop again to answer the constitution's toughest questions. we're talking the supreme court coming up next. presents coverage of the presidential debate. with unrivaled analysis and commentary. >> you're going to hear that used as a major talking point. (vo) the only network with real-time reaction straight from the campaigns and from viewers like you. >>now that's politically direct. >> eliot: after a summer off to smooth over tensions and frayed relations, the justices of the supreme court came back to work today. the entire nation watched after they. upheld the affordable care act. now they're back for another term of tough decisions and maybe frayed relationships. joining me now to make sense of it all, jeffrey rosen from george washington university legal affairs for the the new republic and you thorough of "the supreme court." thank you for joining us. >> good to be here. >> eliot: the supreme
is your take away? >> a couple of things. you get a sense of how relentlessly message to john mccain is. he used the term spread the wealth of around three times. another thing that strikes me is how obama is making eye contact with became the entire time he is talking. he looks right at them. there was a lot of discussion from the earlier debates in 2008 that mccain was having a hard time making eye contact. it came off as rude. another thing that jumps out on me is the contrast of the youthful obama and a much more senior mccain. obama actually was more the adult in my opinion in that relationship in that he was very calm and cool under fire. mccain, although that last debate was his best, he had moments where he was a little erratic and some of those earlier debates. >> you said, both president obama and governor romney share a sense of trepidation about going mano-a-mano on live television. how may it went up boxing them in? >> neither one of them has and enjoyment of debating. that is a weird word to use. i think the ones who are really good at it and the ones who really come acros
recently, john mccain seemed to moffett on the leadership side before he even got to the debate by being willing to or suggesting the debate be canceled or postponed so they could stay in washington and work on the bailout project. that made him look and l unleaderly and did not seem to be able to handle multiple problems at once. for me, and i think this will be important this particular year, our candidates, office of problems. no one doubts obama can relate to the people, that he is likable and can balance or do the democratic party. what we're wondering is what is the leader of the park since we have a four-year pattern that did not make as much change as we had hoped. mitt romney of course is known as take charge ceo leader, but his big challenge will be showing he is democratic, and like the rest of us, -- >> democratic with little lead. >> he has to overcome that. challenging for both. >> you can arm wrestle. you are closer to the microphone. >> i think one of the issues this year because it was one of the few growth industries in the united states, the legion of fact checkers wi
, including house speaker john boehner, former presidential candidate ru rudy giuliani and john mccain and even president george w. bush. but when he was transferred to ohio to face charges, the man authorities believed to be thompson signed in to prison as mister x, leading ofgs ining of believe he was hiding something more. >> major fraud fugitives. >> u.s. marshal peter elliott said by simply searching the internet he found an fbi wanted posted for a similar-looking man, john donald cody, harvard educated attorney who mysterious disappeared from his arizona law practice in 1984 and was later indicted in four counts of estate fraud. original wanted posters described a man without tear ducts. former landlady was called who said her one-time tenant left behind something unusual, two big bottles of eye drops. >> it's said that he had no tear ducts, that he had to use eye drops all the time. in my world, in our world, one and one equals two. >> reporter: also left behind in that apartment, one dvd. >> it's been a while since i've done this. which one is the jump seat again? >> reporter:
dan lothian john kerry is playing mitt romney. take a listen to john mccain. he spoke with candy crowley yesterday on "state of the union." john mccain the last man to debate president obama. >> i think both are excellent in their own way. i think you could argue that mitt has had a lot more recent experience. obviously. but also, candy, part of it depends on who's moderating. >> the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debate per. this is mitt's first time on this kind of stage. >> paul ryan on the sunday talk shows. the running mate talking down expeations. look at this count. brand-new from abc news/"washington post" this morn ing. who's more likely to win the debates? the president by 20-some points. a lot of americans think the president will have the upper hand on wednesday night in denver. >> we'll see. many thanks. cnn's live coverage of wednesday night's debate starts at 7:00 eastern. >>> syria is expected to try to justify its actions in its bloody civil war when its foreign minister speaks before the united nations general assembly later
how this is all playing out. what are they saying. >> senator john mccain says he'll do everything in his power to make sure the administration cannot pay legal bills for defense contractors if they are sued. lindsey graham says we are no longer a rule of law nation. an said senator obama wanted to extend the warn out to 90 days up from 60 to make sure the workers were treated fairly. nonow he is trying to suppress the notices that would hit mailboxes before the election. graham called this a mini coup. jon: we know it's fall. maybe mother nature didn't get the memo. a nasty storm is on the move. janice dean on who needs tow look out. plus, picking the presidential debates' winner and looser. plenty of folks have strong opinions. how will last night's showdown in denver affect the race for the white house? a fair & balanced debate up next. overmany discounts to thine customers! [old english accent] safe driver, multi-car, paid in full -- a most fulsome bounty indeed, lord jamie. thou cometh and we thy saveth! what are you doing? we doth offer so many discounts, we have some to spar
't adequate to be president, it makes me question john mccain's judgment. are they above the bar where there's no real quality difference? >> i think there's an open question about ryan. he can be glib and telegenic that comes across as competent where palin didn't have that skill. we can't say l about. j was the last time a vice president made -- palin in 2008 is a dramatic one. estimates that it was one, 1.5 points is what she cost john mccain for being on the ticket. which is huge. think back to dan quayle. i've never seen a more dramatic contrast between the competence of the two vice presidential candidates, lloyd benson, this old testament authority and dan quayle and benson delivered that devastating line. michael dukakis lost the election but the race tightened towards the end. there was a lot of considerat n consideration -- >> let me ask one last question here on this particular issue. is this going to be more fun for joe biden than 2008 was because sarah palin was someone that he had to pull punches against both because she was a woman, but also because it would not have looked g
. four years ago there were 15 states that barack obama and john mccain were advertising in. now it's down to nine. you know, so you're getting same amount of advertising dollars squeezed into nine states. almost overearn gaugement with with the battleground states. >> the battleground map has dramatically decreased. we're in fewer states. you're not seeing, for example, the obama campaign talked about maybe we'll go into arizona or texas and georgia. they didn't. the obama campaign had long been looking at pennsylvania and michigan. they didn't. remember, in florida eight years ago we were talking about democrats playing missouri and even west virginia at one point or throwing money down to get the other side to spend money or compete and while republicans were looking at places like washington too. where's new mexico? >> robert, one of the things john cohen head of the polling team said it is fascinating the split between the engagement of young voters in swing states and voters in non-swing states. that's where this is being waged. that's where we need to check with enthusiasm.
against john mccain. obviously he won the whole thing. four years ago, though, and he is dealing with that challenge and could be rusty and the challenge of the economy in some of the battleground states. he got 11,000 people at a rally in las vegas last night and tried to make the case that things are coming around. >> i want to promote a new economic patriotism. one that is rooted in the belief we grow the economy best when everyone has a shot. and the middle class is thriving. i won't pretend it will be easy to get there. it took us a bunch of years to get us in this mess. it will take us a few more to get us out. >>reporter: the place where the president is doing presentation is a microcosm of the state, lake las vegas, the boom and bust if you will, with celebrities with multimillion dollar homes but the resort area went bankrupt and some of the hotels went away and now they are coming back, housing surprising are starting to lift. not as quickly as people want to say but it is turning around. >>shepard: is that resented? governor romney has an uphill climb? >>reporter: he d
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